1959/60 era Tweed Gibson GA-8T Discoverer
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The tweed Discoverer is rather similar to a tweed
Fender Deluxe except that (a) it has tremolo and
(b) it uses 6BM8s which contain a triode and a
pentode. It has the typical, tiny, Gibson output
transformer. (The GA-19RVT is the same circuit, but
adds reverb, and uses 6EU7s and 6V6s.)
Alas, when I took the before photos, I was very sick
(in the early stages of shock) but didn't realize it. As
a result, many of the before photos were not usable.
Control Panel (would be on top)
This amp had been worked on. The PS cap (probably
the usual Gibson "cigar" cap) had been
replaced with a metal can cap inside the chassis
(a short waiting to happen, in my book). The
power tube cathode resistor bypass cap had also
been replaced. A power resistor had burned, possibly
burning the power transformer, and another power
resistor (a wirewound sand resistor) had broken
and possibly burned. Dick (the owner) was concerned
about the power transformer as well as the resistors.
A Discoverer's Guts Laid Bare
This amp uses a 12AX7, two 6BM8s, a 5Y3, and has
a lacquered tweed cabinet and a 10" speaker.
The two 6BM8s were biased for a little over 8
watts static dissipation each for a total of
8 to 10 watts output. 8 watts is a bit over
the stated rating for these tubes, but the
specs were conservative. The tubes showed no
sign of strain at all, no matter how loud and
hard I played.
The power transformer turned out to be fine other
than having scorched paper. I replaced the two
resistors in the power supply, hooked the amp to
a 12" Vintage 30 clone, and fired it up. It
sounded very lackluster; the tone was mediocre,
and the attack was very mushy at all volumes.
The tremolo worked, but the range was fairly narrow,
biased toward fast. With the frequency knob at the
half way point, the tremolo was speeding into
blurriness, barely noticeable as an effect at all.
There was also precious little low end. As it
arrived at my shop, it sounded like a really bad,
1960s solid state amp.
After replacing all caps except the can cap in the PS
and the power tube cathode resistor bypass cap the
tone was much better. I used larger caps than Gibson
in a couple of places, notably replacing the 500pF
coupling cap with a .022uF. I also used a .068
instead of a .022 as the first coupler, and went
with .047s feeding the power stage grids. But the
attack still suffered, and there wasn't as much
sustain as there should be. I replaced the PS can
cap with individual Xicons. I stayed with a 20uF first
stage to keep the sag characteristics I hoped were
there, but used 47uFs for the other two caps, to
reduce hum. Suddenly the little monster came alive!
On to the tremolo. I put .047s in place of the first
two .022s (closest to the plate), and the tremolo
improved quite a bit. I tried an .047 in the third
position as well, but now it dropped off at both ends
of the frequency range. A fresh .022 in the third
position was just right. Now the tremolo has a
much wider frequency range, and never fades out.
How does it sound? The clean tone is excellent.
It'll do anything from jazz to clean Hendrix to
steel guitar. The crunch is as good as any tweed
Deluxe, but with a flavor all its own. This is a
very sweet sounding amp!
Power Supply Section: You can see the broken
sand resistor below the pilot lamp. The death cap is
still in place. The big. black cap toward the left
feeds the tremolo waveform to the controls. The brown
zip cord isn't the power cord, it's the cord to the
tremolo footswitch. The black cord coming in from the
lower right is the power cord. Whoever replaced it
didn't bother with a grommet, and the cord was already
being scraped up by the chassis; eventually this would
have shorted power to the chassis. Not good! |
Power supply closeup: The power supply components
are all flying lead (classic Gibson). The 1W resistor poking
out from under the broken sand resistor is the one that was
partially burnt, and which scorched the power tranny paper.
You can see the knot in the power cord for strain
relief. You can also see the brown chicken head knobs. These
are some of the best looking chicken head knobs ever made, IMO. |
Another power supply view: There's not much new to
see here except that the cap coupling the trem circuit to the
rest of the amp has no bolt holding its strap in place. |
Power supply cap: The PS cap is supported at
its base end by a strap covered with electrical tape to
hold it in place. Unfortunately the rest of the can is
bare metal, grounded through that strap and a ground
wire. Most likely this bounced against one of the terminal
tags just visible below it in the photo, causing a short
which burned the PS resistor. I should have mentioned that
the amp came with a 4A fuse installed! |
Knob closeup: I wish I had a better photo of
these knobs. I took this off an otherwise too bright
photo of the control panel. |
Output transformers: The smaller transformer is the
original. Gibson consistently used undersized transformers on
their guitar amps. The new tranny is a Heyboer transformer
designed for a Marshall 18 watt clone project elsewhere on
the web. Heyboer does an excellent job. This Heyboer came
with taps for 4 ohm, 8 ohm or 16 ohm speakers. The primary
impedance was just a bit higher than that of the Gibson
transformer. It adds a lot of clarity, more clean headroom,
and more bass. |
Component board: Here's the component board
with all new caps. The trem coupling cap (the biggest,
fattest, yellow cap) doesn't really need
a strap. I therefore used the old trem cap strap and
mount point to hold the new power supply caps, and just
left the trem coupling cap floating on its leads. Any jolt
bad enough to tear the cap loose will do much more
serious damage elsewhere. As you can guess, it gets a
bit tight with the soldering iron in some spots. |
New PS caps: Here you can see how I mounted
the new PS caps. I placed the strap around the 22uF cap,
and used two cable ties to join the three caps into one
bundle. I soldered the negative leads together. I used
heat shrink tubing on the positive leads. I have used this
setup in a number of amps with great success. |
Complete guts: Here's the whole ball of wax.
You can just see the new 2W PS resistor sticking out
from under the left side of the new 5W resistor in the
lower right part of the chassis. |
Tone control caps: This photo mainly shows the
new tone control caps. I didn't have a .005uF cap, so I
used two .022s in parallel to get close. The brilliance
cap to bypass the volume control is a 390pF silver mica. |
Complete amp: The plate on the left with the
two jacks is the new speaker jack plate. The customer
requested jacks for the 8 ohm and 16 ohm outputs. He'll
bolt the plate into his cabinet somewhere. I provided
18" of braided cable from the OT terminal strip to the
bracket, using cable ties at each end and a cable tie
holder on the bracket for strength. I prefer braiding
over twisting; it stays like I want it and it looks cool. |
Speaker Jack Bracket: Closeup of the speaker
jack bracket. Since with multiple taps you can't easily
use shorting jacks to protect the output section in case
the speaker gets unplugged (or blows), I added a 200 ohm
5 watt resistor across one of the outputs. This will
protect the amp for the short time it should take to
realize there's no sound coming out and turn the amp off.
I used heat shrink tubing on the resistor leads, and tied
the cable down for safety. |
Schematics
Not available online yet. Sorry.
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Last updated: 10 September 2005
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